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Where should coaches be during a dual meet? 
FlipU4Real
Thu Dec 20 2012, 10:24AM
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First, the following depends on space allowed by the gym being used, but in a typical high school gym there should be enough space to comply for a dual meet.

Long story short... 10 feet away from the mat!

When wrestling is going on, or during normal stoppages (out of bounds, between periods, penalty stoppages), the bench, team members, and coaches should all be 10' away from the mat.

Options:
Sit on bench (10' away)
Stand to the side or behind bench.
gray area, but standing directly in front of bench (~9' from mat) is OK by most refs.
if you want to have some room to walk around in front of the bench, move the bench back a few feet... say to 13'.

The MA rule allowing coaches on or at the corner of the mat during a dual meet HAS BEEN REMOVED. It was a one or two year experiment and has been repealed.
Coaches shall not be located matside or in the corner during a dual meet (as space allows). Coaches who do this are breaking the rules, and Refs who allow it are doing a disservice to the next ref who will try to enforce it.

Quad meets:
IF a gym has the space, then the same rules (as above) should apply for both mats being used... but this is generally unlikely. The gym should be set up in the best manner possible to keep both fans and team benches away from the mat, and to give each team a bench area that does not put them in the middle of fans.

FlipU4Real
Mon Dec 16 2013, 09:33AM
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bump!
w1nbyp1n
Mon Dec 16 2013, 10:12AM
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The kids have enough trouble hearing instruction when the coaches are in the corner let alone 10 feet away from the mat. It should go back to 2 coaches in each corner
WICH1149
Mon Dec 16 2013, 11:32AM
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So in football, the coaches are right on the field. In basketball they are also right on the court but in wrestling you want us a min of 10 ft away??? ok.
Pembroke60
Mon Dec 16 2013, 01:11PM
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Similar question: Are there restrictions (according to the rule book) on how many coaches are allowed "mat side" during dual meets as well as tournies? Is this at the referee's discretion? Seems to be very vague venue to venue/referee to referee. Thanks in advance
FlipU4Real
Mon Dec 16 2013, 01:19PM
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Well, obviously the coaches in those sports aren't actually in the field of play... Isn't there a 6' or at least 3' buffer in football? Regardless, in most situations, coaches in those sports are ALOT further from the action than in wrestling, even with the 10' rule.

It's not that "I" or "we" want you 10 feet away, it's the rule book... Write the NFHS.
OACoach
Mon Dec 16 2013, 03:53PM
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Pembroke60

In tournaments 2 coaches are allowed in the corner for each team.

In duals as many coaches as you have can be matside, but matside means in the same corner 10' away from the mat. coaches are not allowed to spread around the mat to coach from all angles.
FlipU4Real
Tue Dec 17 2013, 10:05AM
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OACoach wrote ...

Pembroke60

In tournaments 2 coaches are allowed in the corner for each team.

In duals as many coaches as you have can be matside, but matside means in the same corner 10' away from the mat. coaches are not allowed to spread around the mat to coach from all angles.


In dual meets, you can have as many coaches as you want, but their location requirements are no different than that of the rest of the team. On the bench or behind it. They can be anywhere on the bench (middle, ends, etc..) Nobody should be matside.

What gets enforced varies greatly from ref to ref, unfortunately.... I'm just as guilty as many in letting coaches stand near the mat, especially during quads.
Often in quads, the benches aren't 10' from the mat, then the ref needs to decide where he'll "draw his line".
therealslimshady
Tue Dec 17 2013, 11:39AM
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what prompted this change?
FlipU4Real
Tue Dec 17 2013, 02:39PM
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therealslimshady wrote ...

what prompted this change?


It's not a change. There was one year where the MIAA went against the rule book (as we do here ) and allowed coaches on the corner... but that was just one year.

Here is the Rule [link]
cradleman1952
Tue Dec 17 2013, 05:18PM
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FlipU4Real wrote ...

Well, obviously the coaches in those sports aren't actually in the field of play... Isn't there a 6' or at least 3' buffer in football? Regardless, in most situations, coaches in those sports are ALOT further from the action than in wrestling, even with the 10' rule.

It's not that "I" or "we" want you 10 feet away, it's the rule book... Write the NFHS.


Football and Basketball coaches get away with a lot. Our officials do a pretty good job and are pretty tolerant. On occasion you get one who thinks he is Attila the Hun but most are pretty reasonable. (Even the ones who sent me packing a few years ago at Cohasset.) Wont happen again.
Siamese Mike
Wed Dec 18 2013, 09:07AM
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Angel rivera was brutal that way, ten feet back
nastyhalf
Thu Dec 19 2013, 10:41AM
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WICH1149 wrote ...

So in football, the coaches are right on the field. In basketball they are also right on the court but in wrestling you want us a min of 10 ft away??? ok.


Do you really want to compare yourself to a basketball coach?
If a wrestling coach questioned 1/10th of the calls a basketball coach does, he would be kicked out of the gym.
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