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2011-2012 Rankings as of 1-Feb-2012
 
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Team Rankings   

1.Methuen (D1N)
2.Framingham (D1C)
3.Winchester (D2N)
4.Lawrence (D1N)
5.Natick (D2M)
6.North Andover (D2N) 
7.St. John's Prep (D1N)
8.West Springfield (D1W)
9.Springfield Central (D1W)
10.Lincoln Sudbury (D1C)
11.Chelmsford (D1N)
12.Shawsheen Tech (D1N) 
13.Norton (D3C)
14.Franklin (D1C)
15.Dracut (D2N)
16.Tewksbury (D2N)
17.Pembroke (D3S) 
18.Needham (D2M)
19.Holliston (D3C)
20.Milford (D2C) 
21.North Attleboro (D2S)
22.Plymouth South (D1S) 
23.Mt Greylock (D3W)
24.Arlington (D2M)
25.New Bedford (D1S)

====== Individual Rankings ======
  
Toughest Weight Classes =====

1. 120
2. 145
3. 132
4. 138
5. 152
 
Top 5 Wrestlers, Pound For Pound ===== 

1. 126 Ryan O'Boyle Central Catholic (D2N) (G12)
2. 285 Brendan Battles-Santos Nauset (D2S) (G12)
3. 126 Paul Sughrue Methuen (D1N) (G11)
4. 113 Christian Monserrat Methuen (D1N) (G10)
5. 120 Mike Mui Hingham (D3S) (G12)

Top Wrestlers, Per Class =====

Freshman: 138 Fritz Hoehn North Andover (G9)
Sophomore: 113 Christian Monserrat Methuen (D1N)
Junior: 126 Paul Sughrue Methuen (D1N)
Senior: 126 Ryan O'Boyle Central Catholic (D2N) 

106 ======

1.Jon Ryan Dracut (D2N) (G9)
2.Eric Beneviedes Durfee (D1S) (G12)
3.Stephan Thibault Southwick (D3W) (G8)
4.Victor Ramirez Triton (D3N) (G11)
5.Louis Bornstein Saint John's Danvers (D1N) (G11)
6.Ben Zogby Franklin (D1C) (G10)
7.Brendan Weir Hampshire (D3W) (G9)
8.Nico Calabria Concord Carlisle (D2C) (G?)
9.Ben Defronzo Lincoln Sudbury (D1C) (G11)
10.Danielle Coughlin North Andover (D2N) (G11)

Honorable Mention-
Hector Reynoso Lawrence (D1N) (G11)
Aidan Mcgrath Carver (D3S) (G10)

113 ====== 

1.Christian Monserrat Methuen (D1N) (G10)
2.James Hamilton Lincoln Sudbury (D1C) (G12)
3.Tyrique Dowdell Springfield Central (D1W) (G12)
4.Mitchell Ma Lexington (D1C) (G12)
5.Chris Sullivan Canton (D3S) (G10)
6.Peter Robinson Saint John's Shrewsbury (D1N) (G10)
7.Devon Thompson Lowell (D1N) (G11)
8.Nelson Elicier New Bedford (D1S) (G12)
9.Tom Funk Pentucket (D3N) (G11)
10.Jake Powell Marblehead Swampscott (D3N) (G11)

Honorable Mention-
Shawn Stanton Melrose (D3N) (G10)
Steve Giampapa Burlington (D2N) (G10)

120 =======

1.Mike Mui Hingham (D3S) (G12) 
2.Logan David King Phillip (D2C) (G12)
3.Shane LeBlanc North Attleboro (D2S) (G12)
4.Pat Lacroix Central Catholic (D2N) (G11)
5.Connor Peacock Westford Academy (D1N) (G12)
6.Brett Gallagher Norton (D3C) (G12)
7.Nick DeRosa Billerica (D1N) (G10)
8.Adian Marquez Greater Lawrence (D2N) (G12)
9.Jake Galligani Lincoln Sudbury (D1C) (G11)
10.Laban Christenson Waltham (D1C) (G11)
 
Honorable Mention-
Orlando Rojas Haverhill (D1N) (G9)
Sarith Has Methuen (D1N) (G12)

126 ======

1.Ryan O'Boyle Central Catholic (D2N) (G12) 
2.Paul Sughrue Methuen (D1N) (G11) 
3.Johnny Do Framingham (D1C) (G11)
4.Ellison Robinson Springfield Central (D1W) (G11)
5.Jake Paull Pathfinder (D3W) (G12)
6.Greg Williams Franklin (D1C) (G12)
7.Steve Spry Winchester (D2N) (G12)
8.Ethan Ziegler Natick (D2M) (G11)
9.Leonard Jorge Greater Lawrence (D2N) (G12)
10.Jake Ahern Chelmsford (D1N) (G10)

Honorable Mention-
CJ Botello Barnstable (D1S) (G10)

132 ====== 

1.Paolo Tavares New Bedford (D1S) (G11)
2.Mizam Tamardze West Springfield (D1W) (G12) 
3.Mike Stewart Dracut (D2N) (G11)
4.Sami Baghdady Belmont (D2M) (G12)
5.Zane Melillo N. Andover (D2N) (G10)
6.Nick Cashion Winchester (D2N) (G12)
7.Zack Thomas Natick (D2M) (G12)
8.Mark Pinto Milford (D2C) (G12)
9.Gil Sa Framingham (D1C) (G12) 
10.Edgardo Rios Lawrence (D1N) (G12)

Honorable Mention-
Matt Fanikos Melrose (D3N) (G11)
Cam Hale Norton (D3C) (G12)

138 ======

1.Fritz Hoehn North Andover (D2N) (G9)
2.Jonathon Viruet Springfield Central (D1W) (G9)
3.James Smith Natick (D2M) (G12)
4.Devon Pratt Shawsheen Tech (D1N) (G11)
5.Mikhail Khibkin Needham (D2M) (G11)
6.Dan Huntington Chelmsford (D1N) (G12)
7.Patrick O'Connell Hudson (D3C) (G11)
8.Adrian Sosa Lawrence (D1N) (G11)
9.Chris Kelly Franklin (D1C) (G12)
10.Greg Forbes Woburn (D2N) (G12)

Honorable Mention-
Nick Mariano Newton North (D1C) (G11)
Cody Reagon Taconic (D3W) (G12)
Tom Cormier Billerica (D1N) (G12)

145 ======

1.Josh Hadley Mt. Greylock (D3W) (G12)
2.CJ Doherty Methuen (D1N) (G12)
3.Scott Coleman Norton (D3C) (G12)
4.Jim Ryan Dracut (D2N) (G11)
5.Brad Drover N. Andover (D2N) (G10)
6.Maveric Casia Minuteman Tech (D3N) (G12)
7.Scott McQuaide Chelmsford (D1N) (G11)
8.Ricky Viruet Springfield Central (D1W) (G10)
9.Colin McSweeney Whitman-Hanson (D2S) (G12)
10.Evan Merk Marlborough (D2C) (G12)

Honorable Mention-
Gary Shea Longmeadow (D1W) (G12)

152 ======

1.Ryan Niven Tyngsboro (D3N) (G11)
2.Robert Coukos Framingham (D1C) (G12)
3.Zach Bloom Concord Carlisle (D2C) (G11)
4.Luke Nigro Burlington (D2N) (G11)
5.Mariano Restivo-Lage Natick (D2M) (G11)
6.John Baker Shawsheen Tech (D1N) (G12)
7.Frank Weir Hampshire (D3W) (G11)
8.Dan Boyden Franklin County (D3W) (G12)
9.Jason Ricketts North Andover (D2N) (G12)
10.Jared O'Brien Woburn (D2M) (G11)

Honorable Mention-
Dan Gilmore Mansfield (D1S) (G12) 

160 ======

1.Jacob Straight Pathfinder (D3W) (G12)
1.Dan Connelly North Andover (D2N) (G12)
3.Aaron Conrad Bridgewater-Rayhnam (D1S) (G11)
4.Ryan Therrien Masconomet (D2N) (G12)
5.Alexe Restivo-Lage Natick (D2M) (G11)
6.Henry McKenna Quabbin (D2C) (G11)
7.Wes Brown Wakefield (D3N) (G12)
8.Johana Searcy (D3C) (G12)
9.Matt Ketcham Silver Lake (D2S) (G12)
10.Derrion Walker Mansfield (D1S) (G12)

170 ======

1.Jesse Kordana Taconic (D3W) (G12)
2.Will Henson Barnstable (D1S) (G11)
3.Chris London Tewksbury (D2N) (G12)
4.Tim Curtin-White Milford (D2C) (G12)
5.Marcello Cuci Quabbin (D2C) (G11)
6.Sean Murphy Weymouth (D1S) (G11) 
7.Mark Pomella Marshfield (D2S) (G12)
8.Ian Fox Billerica (D1N) (G12)
9.Steven Stewart Josiah Quincy (D3C) (G12)
10.Ray Stebbins Lexington (D1C) (G12)

Honorable Mention-
Stig Mcelhinney Dracut (D2N) (G10)
Nick Dilibero Masconomet (D2N) (G12)
Cam Horsey Winchester (D2N) (G12)

182 ======

1.Ryan Neals North Andover (D2N) (G11) 
2.Matt Harding Oliver Ames (D2S) (G12)
3.Brian Giblin Triton (D3N) (G12)
4.Dave Dubin Holliston (D3C) (G11)
5.Marcionel Garcia Lawrence (D1N) (G11)
6.Scott Delrossi Methuen (D1N) (G12)
7.Aydan Strachan Masconomet (D2N) (G12)
8.Ryan Kelley Winchester (D2N) (G9)
9.Rufus Arrah Malden (D2M) (G11)
10.Ian Butterbrodt Saint John's Danvers (D1N) (G9)

195 ======

1.Leo Trinidad Billerica (D1N) (G11) 
2.Akwasi Yeboah Lowell (D1N) (G12)
3.Ramesses Akamefula Brookline (D1C) (G12)
4.Alex Furlong Wilmington (D3N) (G12)
5.Adam Grysko West Springfield (D1W) (G12)
6.Cam Carpenter Catholic Memorial (D2M) (G12)
7.James Incemi Saint John's Danvers (D1N) (G12)
8.Sean Moran Xaverian (D1S) (G12)
9.Jake Chapin Framingham (D1C) (G12)
10.Rich Benoit Pembroke (D3S) (G12)

Honorable Mention-
Cain Vanderbrink Bridgewater Rayhnam (D1S) (G12)

220 ======

1.Todd Bazarewsky Plymouth South (D1S) (G12)
2.Murod Usmanov West Springfield (D1W) (G12)
3.Eugenio Garcia Framingham (D1C) (G12)
4.John Graves Nashoba (D2C) (G12)
5.Alex Colon Woburn (D2N) (G12)
6.Steve Jacobs Tyngsboro (D3N) (G12)
7.Steve Hudson Norton (D3C) (G11) 
8.Drew Wadman Weymouth (D1S) (G12)
9.James Fredricks New Bedford (D1S) (G12)
10.Ben Galica Hampshire (D3W)(G12)

Honorable Mention-
Emmit Tkach Catholic Memorial (D2M) (G12)
Cam Chisholm Needham (D2M) (G12)

285 =======

1.Brendan Battles-Santos Nauset (D2S) (G12)
2.Andrew Paredes Stoughton (D2S) (G12)
3.Janer Reyes Lawrence (D1N) (G12)
4.Lou Ferrer Chelmsford (D1N) (G11)
5.Max Williams Franklin Tech (D3W) (G12)
6.Vinnie Guiel West Springfield (D1W) (G12)
7.Corey Jean-Jacques Saint John's Danvers (D1N) (G11) 
8.Justin Strapponi Milford (D2C) (G12)
9.Lucian Cascino Newton South (D1C) (G11)
10.Connor Gatto Saint John's Shrewsbury (D1N) (G10)

Honorable Mention-

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coach_gamache

Wed Feb 01 2012, 11:34AM

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Dan Boyden-152-Franklin Tech is Grade 12, not 11

Jaydakinz

Wed Feb 01 2012, 11:57AM

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I don't aggree with team rankings. North Andover shouldn't have droped that low after a loss to Lawrence. But it's understandable since Lawrence beat North Andover , and North Andover beat Framingham and Framingham beat Lawrence.

wrestlingfanne

Wed Feb 01 2012, 12:29PM

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Just curious and no disrespect intended as he must be a talented kid but who is Josh Hadley @ 145 and what criteria was used to dertermine he deserved knocking off what was one of the top five pound for pound wrestlers in MA to become the #1 rankled kid at 145 (second rated weight overall according to this post). Has he beaten Doherty or any of the other top ranked kids?? Again, just curious I have never seen him at any big tournaments.

coachskp

Wed Feb 01 2012, 12:33PM

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Not sure what he has done this year but he was 4th at All-States last year

Riter

Wed Feb 01 2012, 12:39PM

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wrestlingfanne wrote ...

Just curious and no disrespect intended as he must be a talented kid but who is Josh Hadley @ 145 and what criteria was used to dertermine he deserved knocking off what was one of the top five pound for pound wrestlers in MA to become the #1 rankled kid at 145 (second rated weight overall according to this post). Has he beaten Doherty or any of the other top ranked kids?? Again, just curious I have never seen him at any big tournaments.

In addition Brad Drover just beat CJ doherty in the Methuen Tournament in the semi finals 7-1 I believe!

wrestlingfanne

Wed Feb 01 2012, 12:50PM

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Ya I tried looking some stuff up and saw the 4th at all states for Hadley last year at 130 (a tremenous accomplishment) but follwoed the trail to New England where he went 0-2 knocked out by two kids that went 1-2 (only wins against Hadley). Knocking off a kid who was a runner up at New Englands???? Not trying to critisize the rankings (GREAT JOB) I'm just trying to see what the criteria was (wins against ranked kids this year) so I could make some comparisons. Most of the other top kids attended Lowell for example...... Why Hadley??

Jaydakinz

Wed Feb 01 2012, 01:00PM

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Hadley also travel to PA this year with his team and got some good exposure to wrestling out there. But post seasons legit around the corner so rankings shouldn't even matter anymore. Time for predictions! Lol

wrestlingfanne

Wed Feb 01 2012, 01:26PM

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To clarify: Anyone know who Hadley has beaten this year to warrant a #1 ranking at 145 leapfrogging everyone in MA and knocking Doherty off who was a New England Finalist last year. Almost all of these kids do off season (relevance of PA insignificant). Not knocking the rankings just curious who he is and what the criteria was as there had to have been some. Record? Tournament victories? Wins against ranked kids? Even hard fought loses? Something? You would think someone would have good paper to be ranked #1 in MA at one of the toughest weights and knocking off a former NE finalist.

WestSide87

Wed Feb 01 2012, 01:27PM

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Shea from Longmeadow is at 152.

DRD

Wed Feb 01 2012, 02:07PM

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wrestlingfanne: Very good point with hadley. 145 is one of the toughest weights if not the toughest weight class in New England not sure who Hadley beat to get the #1 spot.

WrestlingGame

Wed Feb 01 2012, 03:33PM

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I don't agree with the ranking 145 should be CJ Doherty from Methuen, who has Josh Hadley beat to be in that spot?

rugger

Wed Feb 01 2012, 04:05PM

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WrestlingGame wrote ...

I don't agree with the ranking 145 should be CJ Doherty from Methuen, who has Josh Hadley beat to be in that spot?

CJD is ranked second where he currently belongs after losing to Drover at the Methuen Inv on Sat by a 7-1 score. Just think that Drover deserves the top spot after that win Sat.

interesting

Wed Feb 01 2012, 04:09PM

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DRD wrote ...

wrestlingfanne: Very good point with hadley. 145 is one of the toughest weights if not the toughest weight class in New England not sure who Hadley beat to get the #1 spot.

Looks like the other 145's are mixing it up pretty good, maybe he is watching them beat each other up and squeaked in, maybe one of the western guys can tell us, but like someone said, its crunch time now and the final rankings will be decided in the brackets.... it is fun though, isn't it!

interesting

Wed Feb 01 2012, 04:13PM

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rugger wrote ...

WrestlingGame wrote ...

I don't agree with the ranking 145 should be CJ Doherty from Methuen, who has Josh Hadley beat to be in that spot?

CJD is ranked second where he currently belongs after losing to Drover at the Methuen Inv on Sat by a 7-1 score. Just think that Drover deserves the top spot after that win Sat.

But Drover lost to Ryan 9-1 the week before, and split matches with CJ in the same month, and CJ beat Ryan 3-2 in January too, that's what I meant by them beating each other up

wrestlingfanne

Wed Feb 01 2012, 05:56PM

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let me try this again. you could debate doherty, drover, ryan, the minute man kid or any number of these guys because they wrestle each other. my question was what criteria was used to jump the hadley kid to the top of one the best weights in MA and New England? Why is he even the list at all. what has he done?? someone help me understand the logic.

DCL2012

Wed Feb 01 2012, 06:11PM

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wrestlingfanne wrote ...

let me try this again. you could debate doherty, drover, ryan, the minute man kid or any number of these guys because they wrestle each other. my question was what criteria was used to jump the hadley kid to the top of one the best weights in MA and New England? Why is he even the list at all. what has he done?? someone help me understand the logic.

I have no dog in this fight, but this seems like a totally legit question. Just a little peak around the curtain is what wrestlingfanne is asking for. Maybe just a simple oversite? 2500 + views on the thread in 8 hours says that at least a few people care; postseason starting this weekend or not.

mray

Wed Feb 01 2012, 06:18PM

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Boy, some of you guys need to put on your big girl panties. In fact, maybe I'll put them on for you. First off , you guys are crying about rankings and no one really cares out West. Maybe a few. Josh Hadley is a good kid and tough wrestler. We don't wrestle much out East partly because it's too far and partly because I don't want to hear a bunch of whiners. I can assure you as I have had the pleasure of coaching this kid and having him as a student that he could care less about the Rankings. I definitely don't care. You are right that the tourneys are coming up. Whether he wins All-States or doesn't place I would rather coach this kid than some of the scumbags that traipse across the mats in some of the other programs. It burns my ass to hear some of the stuff that comes out of some of the posters on here. When I coached in Vermont I used to hear the same crap when we would come to New Englands. I enjoyed it when we beat up on some of you knuckleheads that micromanage every ranking detail and assumed that every Mass. kid and team was better. We have wrestled some good teams and some not so good ones. By the looks of the results there are a lot of not very strong teams out East. Obviously there are some good ones but some of you act like the West and Western kids are an albatross on your wrestling world. I've seen Doherty wrestle. He is excellent and I like the way he wrestles. I'm pretty sure that Bill James is not worried about the rankings as well as Doherty. Don't trash on Josh Hadley. Put on your "Big Girl Panties" and chill out. If not , go suck on an egg.

Thepin

Wed Feb 01 2012, 06:26PM

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Youre the man mray pretty sure Hadley cares every high school kid does..I was there once and if anyone says drover deserves the top spot ya right he was majored by Coleman @ 145 in the marshfield finals he's good but just a sophomore he'll make his run in allstates just not this year

NABC

Wed Feb 01 2012, 06:56PM

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Team rankings are off. Winchester should be #2 - have not lost this year and beat Lawrence by 14. Strong showing at lowell. Natick should be #3 - undefeated and have not have a close match to date. I'm assuming they knock off Framingham tonight. #4 tie between - Framingham, NA, and Lawrence. NA beats Framingham by 18 but loses to Lawrence by 2. Framingham beats Lawrence by 3. At end of day really doesn't matter as things we play out soon. Div2 duals should be fun. Looks like Methuen has a leg up in Div1. Norton favorite in Div3. State individual tourney positioning will play out differently - believe team rankings are based on duals, however.

interesting

Wed Feb 01 2012, 07:13PM

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mray wrote ...

Boy, some of you guys need to put on your big girl panties. In fact, maybe I'll put them on for you. First off , you guys are crying about rankings and no one really cares out West. Maybe a few. Josh Hadley is a good kid and tough wrestler. We don't wrestle much out East partly because it's too far and partly because I don't want to hear a bunch of whiners. I can assure you as I have had the pleasure of coaching this kid and having him as a student that he could care less about the Rankings. I definitely don't care. You are right that the tourneys are coming up. Whether he wins All-States or doesn't place I would rather coach this kid than some of the scumbags that traipse across the mats in some of the other programs. It burns my ass to hear some of the stuff that comes out of some of the posters on here. When I coached in Vermont I used to hear the same crap when we would come to New Englands. I enjoyed it when we beat up on some of you knuckleheads that micromanage every ranking detail and assumed that every Mass. kid and team was better. We have wrestled some good teams and some not so good ones. By the looks of the results there are a lot of not very strong teams out East. Obviously there are some good ones but some of you act like the West and Western kids are an albatross on your wrestling world. I've seen Doherty wrestle. He is excellent and I like the way he wrestles. I'm pretty sure that Bill James is not worried about the rankings as well as Doherty. Don't trash on Josh Hadley. Put on your "Big Girl Panties" and chill out. If not , go suck on an egg.

I don't think people are trying to disrespect Josh, He could very well prove himself to be the best there is. I think that when you have a two time state champ, all state finalist, and New England finalist get moved down due to what really was a close match, at least according to people that saw it, taking a chance and getting caught with 10 seconds left does not change the fact that it was close. With that and looking at what the likes of Coleman, Drover, Ryan and Cassia have accomplished its understandable to question what we have missed. Perhaps you can help us understand and let us know what he has done. As far as his 4th place finish last year at all states, Doherty placed 2nd and Ryan 3rd at 145 last year. And I agree that the rankings are not important and the kids should not let them matter, but the fact is they are popular and do contibute to the sports fan base.

mray

Wed Feb 01 2012, 07:29PM

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I agree but that is the Rankings Team. We can only compete against what is put in front of us. We can only do so much traveling. We went to the NHSCA Duals which was an experience that only few teams get a chance to do. Because we have 8 Seniors (7 starters) I thought that this experience would be something they would never forget along with working out with Blair the day before. I really do not care about Rankings. As far as his NE experience last year he did not wrestle very well. Not sure why but he did not wrestle well. It is what it is. Hopefully he will wrestle good enough through the post season gring to get back there. If not there is no shame.

Carlascooz

Wed Feb 01 2012, 07:31PM

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I agree with Interesting. I saw nothing in this thread disrespectful to Hadley. People are simply asking what criteria was used to rank him #1.

wrestlingfanne

Wed Feb 01 2012, 07:52PM

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still no answer. I'm sure Hadley is rock solid as I said "4th at all states is tremendous accompishment". Not a refletion on Hadley personally. Let me try this one more time...... what criteria was used to determine Hadley as the #1 ranked kid at 145?? Anyone?? If the answer is simply becasue someone saw him wrestle and he's a stud thats cool I just want to know what the criteria is so relax and try answering the question rather than getting into some debate about east vs west. "Micromanging the ranking"??????? Hardly! I'm not splitting hairs here like one fluke win or something. Alls I know is Hadley took 4th at all states at 130 last year. If thats it than I think any lodical person would agree its not even close to being fare given some of the other wresters accomplishments who are also hardworking good kids (not the "smumbags" you're suggesting). I think it is a perfectly legitimate question to ask what the criteria was. This particular ranking just seemed so unjustified from what I personally know that I am curious what its based on. Hoping it was based on something I didn't know and that I could learn something. Anyone have a real answer the question?

thezman

Wed Feb 01 2012, 07:55PM

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Natick beat Framingham

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