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Mike Atlas

Sun Mar 01 2009, 04:05PM

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Many thanks to the Friends of Reading Wrestling and RCTV for their volunteered time and efforts to put together this fantastic production of the All State finals video for the MassWrestling community.

Edit: hello national viewers from TheMatForums - as fans we're all very aware and have talked our heads off about the reffing this year.

Making excuses for losing a match you haven't wrestled yet is a surefire way to never be a champion.

MAwrestling

Sun Mar 01 2009, 04:20PM

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is the video working for anyone..it's not for me.

Mike Atlas

Sun Mar 01 2009, 04:32PM

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If the video above doesn't work, try going to the link directly:

[link]

So was I correct in saying that DeCarlo was the first AS champ for Lexington?

Making excuses for losing a match you haven't wrestled yet is a surefire way to never be a champion.

ExBHSWrestler

Sun Mar 01 2009, 06:10PM

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Cry all you want about the call with time running out. Barucci got jobbed. Pope should get on dancing with the stars.

maine/mass wrestler

Sun Mar 01 2009, 06:30PM

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the video didn't work for me either the first time. i just pressed play then pause then play, then it worked.

Ender.

Sun Mar 01 2009, 07:07PM

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Flannery handed All State Champ.

2phat

Sun Mar 01 2009, 07:52PM

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great job to flannery & pope! nice leg cradle for nick - asst ref knew his stuff! and a nice long ride out for walter!

duckcradle

Sun Mar 01 2009, 09:43PM

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congrats to williams, and staying udefeated for the season.
also, he looks like spartan, which is sick

Shane McDonnell

MatBurn

Sun Mar 01 2009, 10:02PM

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I can understand the bad call in Flannery's match because, even though I don't agree with the ref's decision, Flannery did have the western hook in, which usually constitutes a takedown. But giving Harding 2 pts at 152 is just ridiculous. Donohoe was clearly on two feet, and the criteria for a takedown (at least relevant to this call) would be that he had THREE POINTS of contact with the mat (two feet and a knee, two feet and a hand, etc). There were clearly TWO POINT of contact, both of Donohoe's feet, and certainly no control before he reached back and threw Harding, which would have won him the match. A great battle on both sides; no on is at fault but the referees.

Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle.

Mike Atlas

Wed Mar 04 2009, 09:26AM

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hello national viewers from TheMatForums - as fans we're all very aware and have talked our heads off about the reffing this year.

[link]

Making excuses for losing a match you haven't wrestled yet is a surefire way to never be a champion.

FlipU4Real

Wed Mar 04 2009, 09:47AM

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3 points of contact?? they must have ripped that page out of my rulebook..

pin

Wed Mar 04 2009, 10:09AM

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I believe someone should right a letter to miaa for them to change the last OT rule. After waching the last ride outs i do not think it is fair to end a match having it come down to basically a coin flip. The last OT Should be sudden death first take down wins. No time just take down wins it.. They both have to wrestle No one can just throw in legs and ride the person out. Just something to think about.

ALL OR NOTHING

Beemer

Wed Mar 04 2009, 10:10AM

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The MIAA has no call on that rule....it's a NFHS rule

pin

Wed Mar 04 2009, 10:14AM

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Well who ever does the rules should look into it.

ALL OR NOTHING

Beemer

Wed Mar 04 2009, 10:22AM

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Well keep in mind that's why they put in the 2 30 second tiebreakers in a few years ago...to make it more equitable and give both guys a shot.

psch

Wed Mar 04 2009, 10:35AM

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Just imagine a heavy weight bout that has gone 1-1 in regulation going into a no time limit sudden death over time. 20 minute fat kid cuddle-fest... that is exactly what will attract more fans to wrestling.

mray

Wed Mar 04 2009, 10:53AM

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Max,
Be careful what you say about heavyweights. I have watched a number of light and middle weights that shuffle and hand fake with nothing else happening. Did you see the All-State finalists? There was probably as much, if not more, action in that match than any of the others.

"The Man in the Glass"

"If you are bored you need only look at the image staring back at you in the mirror"

Beemer

Wed Mar 04 2009, 11:28AM

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Yes, but let's face it....that's the exception that proves the rule

psch

Wed Mar 04 2009, 12:41PM

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Thats true, but in general heavy weight matches are less eventful because people that big are simply not meant to be able to go hard for 6 (let alone the 8 it takes to get to the proposed infinite time sudden death) minutes. When was the last time you saw a 250 pound olympic distance runner?

In any event I would like to add

iofthetiger

Wed Mar 04 2009, 01:54PM

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As a Massachusetts wrestling fan, i can honestly say the all state ref job (not mentioning any names) is embarassing to watch. Matt Donohoe for All State OW!

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